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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s Launched! Now use it! by SeveredFifth news &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News, Radio Interviews and Wiki Volunteers Needed</title>
		<link>http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/its-launched-now-use-it/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>SeveredFifth news &#187; Blog Archive &#187; News, Radio Interviews and Wiki Volunteers Needed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news, I was also pleased to see that Greg from the Creative Commons mentioned Severed Fifth in this blog entry about the new Creative Commons case study site, specifically linking to Severed Fifth. He also asks [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Bug Watches by Greg</title>
		<link>http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bug-watches/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James:
I guess I missed the forward command in the Debian BTS (I, unfortunately, haven&#039;t been spending enough time in that tracker).  Thanks for the heads-up.

@Graham:
That&#039;s great to hear!  I can&#039;t wait for the new improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James:<br />
I guess I missed the forward command in the Debian BTS (I, unfortunately, haven&#8217;t been spending enough time in that tracker).  Thanks for the heads-up.</p>
<p>@Graham:<br />
That&#8217;s great to hear!  I can&#8217;t wait for the new improvements.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bug Watches by James Westby</title>
		<link>http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bug-watches/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>James Westby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg,

The Debian BTS can mark bugs as forwarded to other bug trackers
using the &quot;forwarded&quot; command, and then there is an external
tool that runs against this and tracks the status in the remote
bug tracker. It was recently updated to support launchpad, and
so you can get this two-way behaviour going.

However, I believe that debbugs only supports a single forwarded
location, and so you can&#039;t have the useful thing in launchpad
of watching upstream, Debian, Fedora, Foresight, etc. all at the
same time.

I agree that this is one really good thing about launchpad, and
so it would be great to see it in other places as well.

Thanks,

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg,</p>
<p>The Debian BTS can mark bugs as forwarded to other bug trackers<br />
using the &#8220;forwarded&#8221; command, and then there is an external<br />
tool that runs against this and tracks the status in the remote<br />
bug tracker. It was recently updated to support launchpad, and<br />
so you can get this two-way behaviour going.</p>
<p>However, I believe that debbugs only supports a single forwarded<br />
location, and so you can&#8217;t have the useful thing in launchpad<br />
of watching upstream, Debian, Fedora, Foresight, etc. all at the<br />
same time.</p>
<p>I agree that this is one really good thing about launchpad, and<br />
so it would be great to see it in other places as well.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bug Watches by Graham</title>
		<link>http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bug-watches/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Greg&quot;&gt;I know the Launchpad developers are working right now to implement support for reporting back to other bug trackers certain information but I’m not sure of its progress.

Some Blueprints which might be related but I can not read (they are private): Bugs Remote API and Remote Launchpad Python Library (if you know of any other blueprints or bugs with more information, post them in the comments, please).

Does anyone know of any other bug trackers which are actively working on or at least discussing the ability to grab data from LP (or other BTS)  about certain bugs?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m one of the developers working on this feature in Launchpad, so hopefully I can be helpful here.

We&#039;re working on support for two-way communication between Launchpad and other bugtrackers. We&#039;ve already done a lot of work on the implementation of this for Trac (for example &lt;a href=&quot;http://launchpad.net/bugs/158705&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bug 158705&lt;/a&gt; and others) and I&#039;m working in this cycle on doing the same for Bugzilla.

Both of these implementations would require a Trac or Bugzilla plugin that would add the APIs that Launchpad would use (well, for Bugzilla some of the work is covered by the existing 3.x XML-RPC APIs). AFAIK the plugins aren&#039;t ready for release yet but hopefully they will be soon.

The idea behind this work is that Launchpad can push things to remote trackers as well as pulling them. We want to be able to link bugs on the remote bugtrackers to the Launchpad bugs, so the bug watching goes both ways.

There&#039;s no reason my other bugtrackers couldn&#039;t pull from Launchpad in the same way that Launchpad pulls from them, though as you say it&#039;d be pretty hacky right now. However, as I&#039;ve mentioned to Stephan, the Launchpad team is currently working on a set of comprehensive JSON-RPC APIs that will allow developers to do anything that can be done in the web interface programmatically, so once those are available this kind of functionality would be really simple to implement.

Hope this helps :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Greg"><p>I know the Launchpad developers are working right now to implement support for reporting back to other bug trackers certain information but I’m not sure of its progress.</p>
<p>Some Blueprints which might be related but I can not read (they are private): Bugs Remote API and Remote Launchpad Python Library (if you know of any other blueprints or bugs with more information, post them in the comments, please).</p>
<p>Does anyone know of any other bug trackers which are actively working on or at least discussing the ability to grab data from LP (or other BTS)  about certain bugs?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the developers working on this feature in Launchpad, so hopefully I can be helpful here.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re working on support for two-way communication between Launchpad and other bugtrackers. We&#8217;ve already done a lot of work on the implementation of this for Trac (for example <a href="http://launchpad.net/bugs/158705" rel="nofollow">bug 158705</a> and others) and I&#8217;m working in this cycle on doing the same for Bugzilla.</p>
<p>Both of these implementations would require a Trac or Bugzilla plugin that would add the APIs that Launchpad would use (well, for Bugzilla some of the work is covered by the existing 3.x XML-RPC APIs). AFAIK the plugins aren&#8217;t ready for release yet but hopefully they will be soon.</p>
<p>The idea behind this work is that Launchpad can push things to remote trackers as well as pulling them. We want to be able to link bugs on the remote bugtrackers to the Launchpad bugs, so the bug watching goes both ways.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason my other bugtrackers couldn&#8217;t pull from Launchpad in the same way that Launchpad pulls from them, though as you say it&#8217;d be pretty hacky right now. However, as I&#8217;ve mentioned to Stephan, the Launchpad team is currently working on a set of comprehensive JSON-RPC APIs that will allow developers to do anything that can be done in the web interface programmatically, so once those are available this kind of functionality would be really simple to implement.</p>
<p>Hope this helps <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan LoCo Bug Jam &#8211; Summer 2008 by Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu numéro 94 du 1er au 7 juin 2008. &#171; Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu numéro 94 du 1er au 7 juin 2008. &#171; Lettre Hebdomadaire Ubuntu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Où et quand se produira la chasse aux bugs&#160;? Lundi 9 juin à 6h30 dans le bâtiment principal de la bibliothèque publique de Clinton-Macomb. L&#8217;équipe sera dans une salle de conférence avec un réseau wifi ouvert aux détenteurs de cartes de bibliothèque. Les personnes n&#8217;ayant pas de carte de bibliothèque peuvent en obtenir une en cinq minutes, mais si vous avez l&#8217;intention d&#8217;en prendre, essayez d&#8217;arriver un peu en avance. Rejoignez l&#8217;équipe et passez un bon moment en faisant votre contribution à Ubuntu. http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/michigan-loco-bug-jam-summer-2008/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Où et quand se produira la chasse aux bugs&nbsp;? Lundi 9 juin à 6h30 dans le bâtiment principal de la bibliothèque publique de Clinton-Macomb. L&#8217;équipe sera dans une salle de conférence avec un réseau wifi ouvert aux détenteurs de cartes de bibliothèque. Les personnes n&#8217;ayant pas de carte de bibliothèque peuvent en obtenir une en cinq minutes, mais si vous avez l&#8217;intention d&#8217;en prendre, essayez d&#8217;arriver un peu en avance. Rejoignez l&#8217;équipe et passez un bon moment en faisant votre contribution à Ubuntu. <a href="http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/michigan-loco-bug-jam-summer-2008/" rel="nofollow">http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/michigan-loco-bug-jam-summer-2008/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan LoCo Bug Jam &#8211; Summer 2008 by Craig Maloney &#187; Ubuntu MI Bug Jam - Light on people, big on bugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Maloney &#187; Ubuntu MI Bug Jam - Light on people, big on bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wolfger, and I participated in the June Ubuntu MI Bug Jam this evening. I was really hoping more people would have shown up, but with the combination of the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan LoCo Bug Jam &#8211; Summer 2008 by Temperature + humidity = 0 ambition to do anything &#171; Nothing to see here. Move along.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temperature + humidity = 0 ambition to do anything &#171; Nothing to see here. Move along.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if I will, and wondering why I have such a lack of energy compared to this time last year. Bug Jam tomorrow night, and I&#8217;m wondering how the hell I agreed to that? It seemed so far away a week [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if I will, and wondering why I have such a lack of energy compared to this time last year. Bug Jam tomorrow night, and I&#8217;m wondering how the hell I agreed to that? It seemed so far away a week [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan LoCo Bug Jam &#8211; Summer 2008 by Brian Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sure wish I was in Michigan to join in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure wish I was in Michigan to join in!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan LoCo Bug Jam &#8211; Summer 2008 by Daniel Holbach</title>
		<link>http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/michigan-loco-bug-jam-summer-2008/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Holbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go Greg! Please post how it went! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go Greg! Please post how it went! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Michigan LoCo Bug Jam &#8211; Summer 2008 by Jon Stanley</title>
		<link>http://konsilience.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/michigan-loco-bug-jam-summer-2008/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey -

I lead the bug triage team in Fedora and we desperately need contributors as well.  I&#039;d be *very* interested in how this turns out (particularly the effects on lasting contributors).  I&#039;m in the NYC area, and I&#039;m sure there&#039;s plenty of Fedora users to be recruited around here! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey -</p>
<p>I lead the bug triage team in Fedora and we desperately need contributors as well.  I&#8217;d be *very* interested in how this turns out (particularly the effects on lasting contributors).  I&#8217;m in the NYC area, and I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s plenty of Fedora users to be recruited around here! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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